Sunday, May 09, 2010

A Conservative Win In The UK Isn't What Some Might Believe

A conservative win in the UK is not what American's might think as a big win for the right as we would in this country.

With no party having the the necessary seats to win the majority, there has to be a coalition between Labour and some other party or the Conservatives and some other party. The logical choice for some is the Liberal Democrats, the party led by Clegg.

There are 29 or so seats held by smaller parties that could bring the conservatives over the 326 seats needed, by it would require more work than Cameron is probably willing to do and may be the coalition would not be as strong.

Still, the concessions being offered show how far the Conservatives in Britain are from their American counterparts.

From the Financial Times:

"Mr Cameron said they could include concessions to Mr Clegg on “fair taxation”, more green policies, the introduction of a “pupil premium” for disadvantaged children and tentative steps towards electoral reform."

In other words, continue the same progressive fabian socialist tax system and the socialist yoke on the people. Not much rollback there,  is there?

From the Lib Democrat perspective, "Some Lib Dem MPs and activists suspect they are being lured into a trap, in which they would be seen to be propping up a Tory government making big public spending cuts."

My question for them is, how is it working for the country, whose deficit will eventually crush the country? Such points of views are irrational and liberals would rather drive off the cliff thinking they are right than do the right thing. Such is the position of Farm Animals®.

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Christopher said...

I also am following UK politics although not posting much as I am concentrating on this side of the pond. That said I agree with what you state.

What you allude to is the economy of the UK which also is unknown to most Americans, it is actually closer to failure that of Greece than that of Spain or Italy as examples.

AdamS said...

In my opinion Cameron is more of an Alinskyite, if anything. He ran under the familiar keyword of 'Change' and amongst his promises are to mandate some kind of national service for 16 year olds.

When we say 'conservative', we don't mean it like you often do. For example, Daniel Hannan was heavily criticised over here (and immediately shunned by the Conservative party leadership) merely for suggesting to Glenn Beck that our government health system was a mistake.

The Right Guy said...

How is Lord Monckton received? Also, do you know much about Pat Condell? Is he just a one issue wonder in the UK?

Of all the pundits, I like Mark Steyn a lot. Very witty, sharp and informed. Not a retread of the others too.

AdamS said...

Lord Monckton isn't really received that much at all, except of course on the web. The MSM, even most radio, generally do anything to avoid having a real GW debate. Which is why I generally avoid listening to them :)

Also it's a cultural thing I guess - for some reason Americans seem to respect him for his title, but over here if he were the frontman for the anti-AGW argument, people would think that he was just a toff with old fashioned views, or something.

The only time I recall Mark Steyn being mentioned over here (in a magazine I think) was during the Bush years when his book "America Alone" was held up as an example of apocalyptic fundamentalism in the Bush administration, since it was said to be on W's reading list.

Really I'm too young to tell you much about Pat Condell (after looking it up it seems he's been doing shows since before I was born, haha) but he is generally well regarded, obviously him and Dawkins are the favourites of the atheists.

Actually, I just put Pat Condell into Google News and got nothing at all from big media. But on Wikipedia it does say he was a regular guest on BBC radio in the 90s.

The Right Guy said...

Pat does a lot of you tube stuff. Very anti-islam, and anti-religion. Funny though, like Dennis Miller, sort of.

My great grandmother was from London. My grandmother mentioned something about Threadneedle street. I know I have cousins in Kent (Peter Deacon), last name of the English side is Deacon, and going back, Grove and Scripps. When Great Grandma came here in the 1890's, she married an Irishman. Quite the scandal I bet. :) My dad's side is 100% Italian. Quite a mix.

AdamS said...

That's cool! Americans always know their ancestry.

As far as I know my family have lived where they have for centuries, probably a mix of Celtic and Saxon, racially. Also some of my cousins have red hair...perhaps an old Scottish connection...

The Right Guy said...

I don't know about race. I thought we were white...There is auburn in the english side, by which I mean reddish brown. I have greying dark brown hair but my beard is reddish brown turning grey. Anyway, one of these days I have to get over there.

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